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this is cnn breaking news. hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm john vause in los angeles. we're tracking two natural disasters this hour. an earthquake topples buildings in central mexico and the caribbean being hit hard by hurricane maria. first the earthquake. at least 149 people are dead and that number is expected to rise as work crews dig through the rubble in mexico city and
surrounding states. [ speaking foreign language ]. >> the 7.1 magnitude quake hit just after 1:00 p.m. local time. 22 bodies have been recovered from an elementary school which collapsed. at least 30 other children are still missing. more than 4 million homes and businesses are without electricity. and joining us by phone, an american journalist living in mexico city. so how are you right now? what are things like in mexico city tonight? >> well, things have calmed down a little bit. we just got our power back. so we were without power for a little while, feeling a little bit disconnected. during the day, there were a lot of people out on the streets. as it got darker out, people not
directly involved in the rescue efforts sort of started to go inside. there was a feeling that it wasn't quite safe to be outside when there is no power or street lights. we got power back about a half hour ago. >> what is the security situation there like at the moment? are there troops out on the streets? is that a major concern? >> it's not a major concern but i think that, at first people were just shaken up and hesitant to go inside and it started to get darker, now is the time that we got to go inside and everybody is leaving their keys by the door and making sure they have their shoes by the door anding things like that. you hear every five, ten minutes, an ambulance or police car coming by. but i think it's more of the rescue efforts that are still continuing to go on. >> take us back about nine hours or so now.
what was your first reaction when everything started to shake? did you realize what was happening? >> yeah, well there, is -- mexico city does have an alarm system. but where i was, we didn't hear the alarm. it started shaking and someone i was with was the first to realize it and say, wow, it's shaking, i think it seems like a pretty strong one and we were on the second floor. so we all evacuated quickly. but once we, you know, we got outside, it was still shaking pretty hard. and then afterwards everybody just totally shaken up and trying to call friend and family and phone lines not working and internet going slow. so everybody felt shaken up. >> the rocking or the shaking, it lasted for i think some people have said more than a minute, maybe 70 seconds, which
doesn't sound like a long time but in an earthquake it seems like an eternity. was that your experience? >> yeah, it did seem like a long time. i think when it's happening you lose all sense of time. but it did seem pretty long because we evacuated. we were out into the street and then it seemed to go on for quite a while after that. and we did have an earthquake here less than two weeks ago. and this one today did feel like it lasted a wit longbit longer one before. >> anna katherine thank you for joining us and for sharing the details of what happened and what is happening right now. >> thank you for having me. >> let's go to pedram javaheri who has more on the earthquake and the aftershocks. >> you can see that continue for
weeks if not nmonths. a shallow quake at 32 miles deep. so you're going to feel that intensity right away across this region of mexico city. and 70 miles south of the city is where the epicenter was. 15 million people felt strong shaking and 2 million people feeling very strong shaking. and the significance of the quake is mind boggling. there are 2 million quakes every year and one is at 8 or greater. and between up and 7.9, there are 15 of such quakes. let go in for a perspective across the region. mexico city was built on what is now a dry lake bed. you pick it out here on google earth imagery. this was a very shallow lake bed. the city one of the most densely
populated in the world. and that plays a large role in the intensity and how everything plays out. i want to show you this in this topsoil when you have the intense shake you can bring the water table up and liquify the soil. that water table comes up to the top. the buildings begin to collapse. this played out on a similar manner back in 1985 when we had the quake that was a greater than 8.0 magnitude. a similar event here with a shaking being felt through a large area. we're also watching an incredible, absolutely incredible hurricane in maria hat a healthy category 5, st. croix in the crosshairs of this system. the wind gusts pushing up to 200 miles an hour.
the radar shows you it is a little farther off shore. this storm wobbles. people think that hurricanes move in a straight line, that never happens. they wobble as they migrate. the concern is that it is going to push away from the virgin islands. good for them. for puerto rico this is a strong category 5 as it approaches by 8:00 in the morning. look at the storm surge, 7 to 11 feet. that can push up to the second story of your house. that's what we are talking about across the entire island of puerto rico with the storm surge up to 9 feet in spots. and a storm that is different than irma in that it is going to produce tremendous rainfall. 1 to 2 feet in spots.
it is uniform and widespread. on a mountainous island here. what is typically dry river beds and creeks will become raging rivers. that's the biggest concerns, and a lot of time establish we get fixated on the category. but the rainfall amounts could lead to more destruction and loss of life than a storm of this magnitude. and the population density are the highest populations. 4 million people in puerto rico. about half of that population on the eastern third of the island. the category 5 crosses over this region. never has a storm of this magnitude moved across this region. a new graphic from the power outage perspective. with irma it crossed 50 miles to the north of the island and left 1 million customers without power. we could see power outages here,
historically speaking, weeks or months and it could play out that way as it is moving across the most populated region. >> and that diagonal path is dangerous. it's more water than if it skirted around the coast. thank you for the update. we will keep in contact with you. our reporters are across the region covering the storm. derek van dam joins us live. you are in the path of the storm. what are the conditions like right now and what does that tell you about what is still to come? >> reporter: well the storm is most intense at its core. all hurricanes behave and act like that. the strongest winds are around the center of the eye wall. once that reaches the shores of puerto rico at 8:00 or 9:00 this morning. that's when the conditions will be at their worst or the peak of
the hurricane. 175-mile-an-hour sustained winds. hurricane force winds extending 50 miles from the center. tropical storm force winds extends 150 miles from the center. that is a 300-mile wide hurricane. this is a significant storm. it's up to a category 5. when we start to look at past events, this could potentially be the strongest hurricane to ever reach the shores of puerto rico. a lot of people remember or at least have heard about the destruction that came with the 1928 and 1932 hurricanes that struck this region. guess what? this could pale those in comparison. that puts it in perspective. right now the central pressure of this storm. this is the way that meteorologists use to determine the strength and intensity of a hurricane. it's at 908 millibars. that is the tenth lowest pressure reported in an atlantic
basin hurricane. . we are in san juan. and we expect tropical storm force winds for the next four hours, hurricane force winds by first light. worst conditions between 8:00 and 10:00 in the morning. a lot of tough hours ahead of us to say the least. the storm surge 6 to 9 feet. in the virgin islands, we expect 7 to 11 feet. and that has to do with the shallow nature of the waters across that particular area. this is a mountainous territory in puerto rico. so that is going to act as a barrier. it's going to squeeze out the available moisture and produce a lot of rainfall within puerto rico leading to flash flooding as well. storm surge, winds of 175 miles an hour and flash flooding. those are the three main concerns. now we've had, remember, harvey and irma, move through this region within the past two to three weeks. we've got a little bit of
problem with storm fatigue. i want to bring in nick value l -- valencia. people become complacent. it's like crying wolf. >> especially in puerto rico when they are so used to hearing about tropical storms and hurricanes, a shrug of the shoulders. but we've heard the tone change from the government as well. during irma we asked the local residents and the governor was praised for his calm demeanor. but what has happened in the last 24, 48 hours is the tone of anxiety, the tone of nervousness among those government officials that are leading what will be no doubt, the relief efforts on the island territory. >> even your taxi driver. he seems anxious about this storm as well. >> that's right. my taxi driver was a woman. she was driving me here on the way to the airport and telling
me i don't know how we're going to go through another storm. we just went through irma. there are roovs still damaged and homes without electricity and people without running water. she was telling me about her 80-year-old father, she doesn't have electricity. i asked what are you going to do with your father? and she said we're going to hope for the best. as the conditions start to worsen we are feeling what could come here in the coming hours. we are being blocked by a parking structure here. so the conditions are worse toward the beach. i walked 100 yards from where we are standing. light is out. you are seeing debris in the roads and the sand is whipping and starting to cause an issue here locally. it's only going to get worse. >> you talked about the structure of the this building. how safe are we here? >> you know, we chose this location because of safety. safety is always a concern for
our crews to keep us in a safe environment. the honest answer is the infrastructure here in parts of the island are not meant to withstand wind of what we expect here today. category 3 is what these structures are built to handle. we are expecting a category 5. >> we have a long night ahead of us here. but in the meantime we're going back to john in the studio. can you hear us? >> i can. it has been a long month, it seems, the storms keep coming one after the other. thanks to you both. when we come back, donald trump putting world leaders on notice. north korea tops his list of evil nations. he's on his way to work in alaska. this is john. he's on his way to work in new mexico. willie and john both work for us,
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welcome back, everybody. in his first appearance at the u.n. general assembly, donald trump set a grim, combative tone. he referred to u.s. sovereignty repeatedly making it clear that the u.s. will act in its own self interest and other countries should do the same. he called the iran nuclear deal an embarrassment and issued a dire warning to north korea. >> the united states has great strength and patience. but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies we will have no choice but to totally
destroy north korea. rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. the united states is ready, willing and able, but hopefully, this will not be necessary. that's what the united nations is all about. >> ian lee joins us from seoul, south korea. name calling and threats of total destruction from the u.s. president. how is that likely to play out with the north koreans? >> not well, john, simply put. we know that kim jong-un is not going to be like called rocket man and he doesn't take too kindly to threats against his regime and that's really what's pushing him to develop a nuclear weapon and we haven't heard officially from the north koreans and it could be more what they do instead of what they say. they could carry out another
test in act of defiance and things we've seen from the regime in the past, the interesting thing, too, was the reaction from south korea. we heard from the president's spokesman saying that the unprecedentedly long speech showed that -- illustrates that america is serious about north korea, saying that the denuclearization of north korea is the only path to get to that path is through maximum sanctions and pressure. and they also said they're in close cooperation with the united states. you know, the one thing they didn't mention, though, was war or any military option and we haven't heard that from the government here. they keep talking about diplomacy and dialogue. sitting down with north korea and talking about it and hashing it out that way. only yesterday did we heard the defense minister bring it up as a supportive element and not talking about any sort of military option.
because it -- straightly put, john, the people of korea don't want to see another war on their peninsula. >> they, you would imagine, have a say in it. ian lee live for us there in seoul. so joining us now with more on this is peter matthews. just on the last point about the statement from the office of the south korea president about america being serious about north korea. could another take on that be you have run out of options when you talk about the total destruction of another country. and this is an indication that once you reach that there is nowhere else to go. >> north korea took a stab at not firing missiles at guam. we are going to postpone military maneuvers for a while. the president lost a golden
opportunity to tell the whole world that we're a nation among nations willing to work as partners. the america first agenda is contrary to the united nations. >> yeah. but also, it seems this was a speech which, you know, many people around the world may not have liked it but a lot of people in trump country in the united states is what they wanted to here. >> which is about down to 34% of the popular -- of the population. it is narrowing and the few people who support him, it's a good chunk of the population. he's not going to expand his base. he can't win the next election if he keeps this up. we could end up in world war 3. the wars are started mostly by miscalculation and mistake and error. >> there are consequences. and a tweet, threats against
north korea more likely to persuade north korea to increase its missiles than give them up. a lot of people are taking this line that this speech that donald trump hoped would deter north korea could do the opposite. >> one thing that north korea tests another missile or the latest bomb and they feel more insecure and say we need this defense against a u.s. invasion or a pre-emptive strike. >> this america first doctrine about every nation for themselves which is what he was at advocates, but he wants china to put more pressure on north korea but that is not in its self interest. >> and i'm not sure he has thought it through. china's concern is instability on its border. or having an antagonistic
government. it could go against china. so china is concerned. he is saying every nation for itself. that's what china is doing right now. but he is saying we should work it out together. >> the reaction to this speech in realtime from the white house chief of staff john kelly, that palm plant. it did not go unnoticed. >> it seems that james mattis is trying to clean up the position when it comes to north korea. listen to this. >> dealing with the north korean situation through the international processes that you will continue to do so. the secretary tillerson leading the effort and we will hopefully get this resolved through diplomatic means. >> it does seem some frustration and concern within the administration. but regardless of what they say, at the end of the day, these are the words that the president
said. you can't take them back. >> he cannot backtrack. mattis and tillerson have always tried to clean up the mess of his words. eventually they're not going to be able to do it. i invite president trump to be more cautious and listen to people who have knowledge about this issue, who have been in the field for so long. he's an amateur and he is the president, he needs to listen to the advice of experts. >> that advice is coming from a lot of people and has been for quite some time. i guess we'll see. the french president spoke to christiane amanpour. he said he has a good relationship with trump but they have their differences. >> reporter: president trump says some things in person and some things on twitter and his ministers say other thing. how do you deal with the leader
of the free world in this kind of situation. some say they don't know who to listen to. what does president macron use to deal with the president of the united states? >> i have direct discusses with president trump. i do appreciate him. we have a very good personal relationship. i don't interfere in domestic policies and what you describe as indifferences or discrepancies. there is one voice, you elected your president and this is a voice i condition and a man i speak with. it's always the same thing. we share our views. he's very direct and i think -- i think he will listen to what i propose. >> what are the main areas of disagreement right now? >> i think the very first disagreement is very well known. it's about climate. and as president trump decided
to leave the paris agreement, i mean, that is choice and i do respect his choice and he was elected on the basis of such a decision. but i do regret the decision. and i do want to convince him to come back to this agreement. for me, that's a core agreement for climate. and i do believe that especially after these hurricanes we just had both in the u.s. and in france, we do see the direct consequences of co2 emissions and the climate change. we have to fight against this climate change and we need global mobilization for that. we have disagreement on this issue but i will keep pushing. we will implement the paris agreement on our own at the french and at the european level. we have a strong relationship with the chinese. and it's important to keep that
approach. and it's an issue for the u.s. itself to see what they want to do and what president trump wants to do with climate. but we have to deal with that. >> you know, it seems the french president is sort of this antithesis of donald trump right now. while at the same time managing to stay on donald trump's good side. but is that of value if he can't persuade trump to go with a majority opinion? >> he needs to persuade donald trump or move forward on the world for climate change and on north korea and get the iran agreement to continue. trump is threatening to dismantle the iran deal. macron, uk, germany, they're all for the iran deal. and macron has to find a way to
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>> officials found 22 bodies in that school. 30 other children remain missing. this is the moment the quake struck. it was caught on cell phone videos. [ speaking foreign language ] [ bleep ] [ screaming ] [ sobbing ] [ speaking foreign language ] [ alarm ] [ screaming ]. >> this is the second earthquake to hit mexico in less than two weeks and 32 years to the day
after a powerful earthquake killed thousands in and around mexico city. the country is on one of the most seismically active regions. a professor of seismology at the california institute of technology joins us. this is something that concerns a lot of people up and down california as well and in many parts of the world. if earthquakes are about releasing a build up of energy. a magnitude 8.1 a couple weeks ago and another 7.1. does that buy us time here? what can we expect? >> there is energy that has been released up there in mexico. but that doesn't release the energy on the san andreas fault and a lot of the faults beneath our feet. >> is there a link we can make between what is happening in
mexico and what we could expect here or are they completely separate events? >> the events in mexico do not have any impact that happen here in california but there are other analogies between the earthquakes there and here. and there are important differences we can discuss. >> what are the similarities? >> the shaking and the severity of the shaking. the faults are dangerous and big and very close to us. >> and the differences? >> the differences is the building practice, for example here in california we have one-story houses, very light. they don't tend to fall. the dangerous things are the things that can fly during the shaking. but not the collapse of a building, for example. >> mexico, though, after that 1985 earthquake in the capital, apparently, went about improving building standards, implements
higher codes, safety procedures to prepare for earthquakes. given what you have seen in the last couple hours, we have seen some buildings collapse. but 140 people dead. a high death toll but not as high as it could be. do you think mexico was as prepared as it could be for this event? >> with every earthquake we learn how to build better and prepare better. but there is no obligation to correct or retrofit older buildings and perhaps a lot of the buildings that collapsed today were older buildings that were not prepared. >> there is an expectation for people in california especially in los angeles and southern california. you are always waiting for the big one. the fear is the big one is long overdue, right? >> yes, big earthquakes happen in california after 150 to 200 years. we have not had a big one since 1957. there's also smaller earthquakes
that can happen and they're as dangerous because they are closer to us like the northridge. it was smaller but in a fault that we didn't know about beneath our feet. >> the depth of the quake is crucial in the damage it can do. but the question a lot of people are asking, is there an 8.2 magnitude earthquake coming any time soon for los angeles or california, the problem is there's no way to know. >> there's no way to predict when it will happen. but it is certain in my lifetime i will go through here. it can happen tomorrow or in ten years from now. and a bigger one, 8.2 can also happen. >> how old are you? >> i'm 42. >> good to know. this is something that concerns a lot of people here.
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welcome back, everybody, tracking hurricane maria, the category 5 storm pummelling the u.s. virgin islands right now. even islands not in the direct path are taking a beating including an teag including antigua. >> reporter: the island of dominica. the prime minister saying that there is widespread devastation. my roof is gone, he writes. i'm at the complete mercy of the hurricane. house is flooding. he adds so far we have lost all of what money can buy and replace. with the island in ruins and his
house in shambles, cnn reached him by phone. >> this hurricane is unrelenting. i don't think there are many roofs which would survive the hurricane. >> reporter: reports have been few, communications hit hard. but ham radio operators are saying there have been significant structural daniel island wide. the island of guadeloupe was next. hit hard by winds and rain. flooded streets, high winds lashing the island. at least one dead and two missing there. hurricane maria is currently, 120 miles south-southwest of us here in antigua. you can get a sense of what it must be like in the path of this storm. islands that thought they might deal with a category 3 hurricane
faced a category 5. many places enduring their second major hurricane in less than two weeks after irma tossed through taking lives and destroying communities. on the u.s. virgin islands, residents are trying to recover from the devastating effects from irma being forced to evacuate and prepare for another brutal hit. and puerto rico bracing for an assault, a state of emergency has been declared. 500 shelters set up across the island while they wait for what could be the strongest tomorrow to hit in 85 years. >> that's the situation in antigua. let's go to puerto rico and san juan and derek van dam is live once again. it's crucial we know where the storm is, how far away it is and what intensity it is. so what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, listen, we
are in san juan right now, the northeastern section of puerto rico and the storm is 95 miles or 240 kilometers to our south and east. several hours to go before the storm inches closer and closer. but hurricane maria, major hurricane maria is really scraping the upper echelon of what is possible with hurricanes. 175-mile-an-hour sustained winds around the center of the storm. we continue to harp on that. we know that's where the strongest winds will be felt. and if -- to put this in perspective we have a scale for tornados which are small scale events, let's say a half mile wide at its greatest. 0 to ef-5 is the strongest tornado possible. with a hurricane of 175 miles an hour that's equivalent to a tornado of an ef-3 equivalent. that would last -- upwards of
several hours here if we get a direct land falling hurricane in san juan or across puerto rico. that puts it in perspective. a two four and a half long tornado for instance. the winds have continued to pick up. we are in a sheltered area to keep our team safe. but we did step outside of the building a few moments ago, the trees are starting to lean to the edges, we have lost electricity in the streetes her. the storm surge is the major threat. 6 to 9 feet is the predicted storm surge in the greater puerto rico region. in the virgin islands they are expecting 7 to 11 feet. and that's all because they have shallower water surrounding the islands compared to puerto rico. on top of that, heavy rainfall leading up to flash flooding. up to 2 feet of rain can fall in
these localized areas causing flash flooding. the night is going to be long and people are starting to heed the call to stay inside if not evacuated. >> you look at some of the islands that weren't hit particularly hard by irma less than two weeks ago they are the base for recovery operations where a lot of relief workers have been and many people who fled irma took shelter and now they are in the path. clearly a lot of the work done in the last couple of weeks are going to be severely impacted in the next couple days or week or so. >> it's unfortunate they cleaned up from two major hurricanes and now they're facing a third. and that brings up the fact that some people might be getting storm fatigue. it's like if you cried wolf. we talked about hurricane warnings too much. but we heard nick valencia who talked about how the governor has raised his tone and sense of
urgency with this hurricane. a category 3 let alone a 2, is nothing to fancy at. a category 5 is as strong as it gets. it's reaching the upper echelon of what is possible with hurricanes and mother nature. >> derek, things will get a lot more dangerous in the next couple hours where you are. stay safe. we'll take a short break. you know his greatest hits, lying teds, crooked hillary, all about the hands. and add rocket man to donald trump's list of insults. that's next on "newsroom l.a." when you're clocking out. sensing your every move and automatically adjusting to help you stay effortlessly comfortable. there. i can also help with this. does your bed do that? oh. i don't actually talk. though i'm smart enough to.
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this is cnn breaking news. hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. it's 11:00 p.m. here in los angeles. i'm john vause with breaking news. two massive natural disasters unfolding this hour. in mexico, the death toll continues to rise after a major earthquake and a category 5 hurricane maria about to strike puerto rico after bringing more destruction and misery to the already devastating caribbean region. at least 149 people are dead, dozens of buildings have collapsed. rescue workers are looking for signs of life. the mexican p